Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Teknis)/Arsip/2018/12
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- Admins will not be able to unblock themselves if they are blocked by someone other than themselves. This is because it can cause damage if someone else takes over an admin account and other admins can't block them. If this is a problem for your community you can report it on Phabricator. You can also ask questions on Meta. There is a discussion on Phabricator about how to solve this if two admins fight with each other on a small wiki. [1]
- Small SVG images are now bigger when you see them in MediaViewer. [2]
- You can go to a section from the edit summary by clicking on the section name. Before this you had to click on the arrow. [3]
- When you jumped to a footnote that was referenced several times in an article it could be difficult to see where you were in the text. Now there are jump marks and highlights to help you find your way back. [4][5]
Changes later this week
- There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Meetings
You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 5 December at 16:00 (UTC) and at 23:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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3 Desember 2018 16.12 (UTC)
Pertanyaan[sunting sumber]
Maksud dari "tindakan resmi" yang ada dalam kriteria penghapusan cepat itu apa ya? Kerektek2000 (bicara) 8 Desember 2018 05.29 (UTC)
Penghalangan pengategorian (EN: Category suppression)[sunting sumber]
Rupanya belum ada rekomendasi atau konsensus komunitas tentang penghalangan pengategorian. Di Wikipedia EN rekomendasi ada, walaupun hanya lemah. Sistem yang digunakan sekarang (kat=no) kurang bagus:
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia}} -> akan dikategorikan (baik)
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|kat=no}} -> tidak akan dikategorikan (agak baik)
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|kat=yes}} -> juga tidak akan dikategorikan (kasar, membingungkan)
Dulu ada banyak halaman yang dikategorikan dengan salah (halaman pengguna dalam kategori templat, dan templat dalam kategori halaman pengguna). Saya sudah memperbaiki banyak halaman kotak pengguna, sekarang hampir tidak ada halaman yang dikategorikan dengan salah. Tetapi saya kurang bahagia dengan kat=no.
Saya ingin memberi saran berikut (untuk semua templat yang perlu penghalangan pengategorian) yang seperti tetapi tidak sama dengan solusi di Wikipedia EN (contoh "Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia"):
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|nocat=auto}} atau {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia}} -> akan dikategorikan menurut ruang nama ("Pengguna:" -> IYA | lain -> TIDAK), kalau tidak ada evaluasi ruang nama halam akan dikategorikan
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|nocat=false}} -> akan dikategorikan
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|nocat=true}} -> tidak akan dikategorikan
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|nocat=no}} -> kesalahan, templat boleh mengomel (dilarang karena membingungkan)
- {{Pengguna pecandu Wikipedia|nocat=}} -> kesalahan, templat boleh mengomel (dilarang karena membingungkan)
Bisa memprogram sebuah modul yang megerti "nocat=true" dan juga "kat=no" untuk memungkinkan perubahan terus-menerus. Taylor 49 (bicara) 8 Desember 2018 09.49 (UTC)
Sudah: Modul:Myesnokat. Taylor 49 (bicara) 9 Desember 2018 17.21 (UTC)- Perbaikan teks ini. Taylor 49 (bicara) 19 Desember 2018 13.59 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 11 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 12 December. It will be on all wikis from 13 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 12 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- New accounts will need passwords that are at least 8 characters long. Admins, interface admins, bureaucrats, oversighters, CentralNotice admins, global renamers, check users, stewards and some other user groups will need passwords that are at least 10 characters long. This is because an attacker could cause damage to the wikis if they took over these accounts. [6][7]
- When you hover over a footnote it will show you the reference as a pop-up. This is so you don't have to jump down to the bottom of the page to see a reference. This will happen in 2019. Some wikis already have gadgets that do this. You will be able to turn it off. [8]
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10 Desember 2018 17.33 (UTC)
Pengurus: Minta tolong melengkapi sumber di Istimewa:Sumber buku dong. Misal Istimewa:Sumber_buku/978-1-58544-389-5 cuma ada 5 pranala dan tidak terlalu berguna. Kalau dibandingkan en:Special:BookSources/978-1-58544-389-5, jauh lebih banyak. Tapi kalau susah menambahkan semua, saranku tolong tambahkan Google Books (misal [9]) serta worldcat (misal [10]. Karena di Google Books sering ketemu teks buku itu (walaupun sebagian) dan di worlcat ada daftar perpustakaan tempat buku itu bisa dipinjam. Pranala sumber buku ini biasanya muncul di bagian referensi untuk buku yang ada ISBN-nya, dan kalau ketemu teks aslinya (misal di Google Books) akan membantu sekali untuk pemastian informasi, atau untuk membaca lebih lanjut. Karena ini halaman istimewa, sepertinya pengguna biasa tidak bisa mengubahnya. HaEr48 (bicara) 16 Desember 2018 19.02 (UTC)
- Tag pengurus Mimihitam atau Bagas Chrisara yang mungkin tau caranya. HaEr48 (bicara) 16 Desember 2018 19.02 (UTC)
Coba panggil Bennylin Mimihitam 18 Desember 2018 14.07 (UTC)
- @HaEr48: Coba diuji kembali dengan cara masukkan kode ISBN di Istimewa:Sumber buku. Untuk sementara sudah saya tambahkan—meski belum lengkap—beberapa pranala pencarian yang serupa dengan versi WPEN, dan nanti akan saya lengkapi. -- Bagas Chrisara (bicara) 19 Desember 2018 12.21 (UTC)
- Mantap. Sekarang pun udah oke, bung Bagas Chrisara. Yang penting-penting seperti Google Books atau worldcat sudah ada. Kalau yang di en.wp kebanyakan, gak perlu ditambahkan ke sini semua juga menurutku gak apa apa. Btw, kalau mau utak atik di sini ya? Versi yang sebelumnya (yang ada gramedia segala macam) ada di mana? HaEr48 (bicara) 19 Desember 2018 17.04 (UTC)
- Benar, Anda dapat menyunting halaman tersebut. Saya membuat halaman Wikipedia:Sumber buku setelah mengikuti instruksi dari sini. Versi sebelumnya saya kurang tahu, mungkin bawaan perangkat lunak MediaWiki. -- Bagas Chrisara (bicara) 20 Desember 2018 02.49 (UTC)
- Oke, terima kasih banyak bung Bagas Chrisara! HaEr48 (bicara) 20 Desember 2018 03.14 (UTC)
- Benar, Anda dapat menyunting halaman tersebut. Saya membuat halaman Wikipedia:Sumber buku setelah mengikuti instruksi dari sini. Versi sebelumnya saya kurang tahu, mungkin bawaan perangkat lunak MediaWiki. -- Bagas Chrisara (bicara) 20 Desember 2018 02.49 (UTC)
- Mantap. Sekarang pun udah oke, bung Bagas Chrisara. Yang penting-penting seperti Google Books atau worldcat sudah ada. Kalau yang di en.wp kebanyakan, gak perlu ditambahkan ke sini semua juga menurutku gak apa apa. Btw, kalau mau utak atik di sini ya? Versi yang sebelumnya (yang ada gramedia segala macam) ada di mana? HaEr48 (bicara) 19 Desember 2018 17.04 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Tech News
- Because of the holidays the next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 7 January 2019.
Recent changes
- Some templates that show notices about the content of the page will now be shown on the mobile website. In many cases they were hidden before. [11][12]
- Admins can no longer unblock themselves, except for self-blocks. A blocked admin can block the user who blocked them but no one else. This is so no one can block all admins on a wiki without being stopped. [13]
- The ParserMigration extension has been removed. It compared the result of two versions of the MediaWiki wikitext parsing pipeline. It was used when we moved to the Remex parsing library instead of Tidy.
Problems
<ref>tags can use parameters such as "name" or "group". For example<ref name="adams" group="books">. If a<ref>tag has more than two parameters all parameters are ignored. You don't get a warning that they don't work. This will soon be fixed. [14]
Changes later this week
- The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 18 December. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 19 December. It will be on all wikis from 20 December (calendar).
Meetings
- You can join the technical advice meeting on IRC. During the meeting, volunteer developers can ask for advice. The meeting will be on 19 December at 16:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
- The Wikimedia Foundation Android app team are working on making it easier to edit on mobile phones. You can read more about these plans. If you have an Android phone and speak at least two languages you can help testing in English. Tell Dchen (WMF) you want to be part of the testing by writing on her talk page or email her.
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tiles.wmflabs.organdwma.wmflabs.orgwill stop working. They have no maintainers and run an old operating system. Tools which use it could stop working. This includes the mapnik gadget, hill shading, and hike and bike layers. New maintainers could help out and keep it going. [15]
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17 Desember 2018 20.35 (UTC)
Wikipedia Android app[sunting sumber]
Tolong bantu terjemahkan ke bahasa Anda
Hey everyone,
We need your help. As you know, our readers mainly read the wikis on mobile phones, but our editing tools are focused on desktop and keyboards. This will be a problem for us: Wikipedia became a big thing because everyone who read it could add information. If this is not true in the future, we’ll have a harder time getting new editors. In the long run, effective mobile editing is about our survival.
The Wikipedia Android app is going to try a couple of things to see if we can get more people to start doing small tasks like adding or translating short title descriptions.
Would you be willing to help out by testing this and telling us how it worked? You’d have to have an Android phone and be willing to install the app. We need to hear both from users who are used to editing on mobile and desktop and from users who usually edit only on desktop, so you don’t worry if you haven’t edited on mobile before.
Please fill out this form to help out: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScUj-8iCJf63OXEhMrtQCXfVksC8QF4souAX-Y7lmZubyAFfA/viewform
Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (bicara) 21 Desember 2018 20.28 (UTC)
Galat pada modul daftar episode di artikel Hukum Milo Murphy[sunting sumber]
Adakah yang bisa memperbaiki galat di artikel Hukum Milo Murphy? Mungkin ada kesalahan di modul daftar episodenya. Saya tidak terlalu paham masalah teknis seperti ini. Terima kasih. Pengguna:Arifin.wijaya/tt 25 Desember 2018 pukul 12.01 WIB
- Sudah saya perbaiki ya mas @Arifin.wijaya: Baloo • Ngomong 31 Desember 2018 21.57 (UTC)
Orang Iseng Menyisipkan Link di Laman Wikipedia[sunting sumber]
Selamat siang admin Perkenalkan nama saya M Yafei, saya ingin melaporkan ada penyalahgunaan laman wikipedia dengan menyisipkan link di laman wikipedia tanpa sepengetahuan pemilik laman. Saya sudah beberapa kali menyuntingnya tapi belum di setujui sama admin sampai sekarang. Mohon peninjauan admin https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supeno_Surija Myafei026 (bicara) 29 Desember 2018 04.47 (UTC)
- @Myafei026: Saya lihat tidak ada suntingan yang tertunda. Atau ada hal lain yang luput dari saya? ··· 🌸 Rachmat04 · ☕ 31 Desember 2018 10.03 (UTC)