Wikipedia:Warung Kopi (Teknis)/Arsip/April 2015
Pencantuman gambar AP/AB di WBT[sunting sumber]
Saya lihat pada pencantuman Artikel Pilihan/AP atau Artikel Bagus/AB di Wikipedia bahasa Tionghoa (WBT) ada yang malah mencantumkan lambang portalnya, misalnya AP/AB mengenai tokoh sepakbola yang dipajang gambar bola, AP mengenai video game yang dipajang gambar stik. Selain itu juga adapula AP/AB tentang tokoh Hongkong yang ditampilin malah lambang/bendera Hongkongnya. Kalo nggak percaya silahkan liat sendiri: zh:维基百科:優良條目/存檔. Apakah hal tersebut diperbolehkan ? --What a joke (bicara) 2 April 2015 03.55 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can join a new email list for important news about Wikimedia Labs. [1]
- You can read the last monthly report. In the future you can read team reports every three months. You can see current work on the roadmap. [2] [3]
- The number of articles in Istimewa:Statistics is now updated once a month. [4]
- You can use a new version of the Wikipedia app for Android. Using the app, you can now share a fact with your friends. [5]
Problems
- The import tool was broken for a few days. Imports didn't add log entries. You can delete and import pages again if necessary. [6]
- Labs was broken several times this week. [7] [8] [9] [10]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 1. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 7. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 8 (calendar).
- You can now add the same special characters with VisualEditor as with the wikitext editor. [11]
- Many bugs around copy-paste in VisualEditor are now fixed. [12] [13]
- You can now use basic tools of VisualEditor in the new talk tool. You can add links, bold and italics. You can also mention people. [14]
Meetings
- You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 8 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
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6 April 2015 15.41 (UTC)
VisualEditor News #2—2015[sunting sumber]
Did you know?
With Citoid in VisualEditor, you click the 'book with bookmark' icon and paste in the URL for a reliable source:
Citoid looks up the source for you and returns the citation results. Click the green "Insert" button to accept its results and add them to the article:
After inserting the citation, you can change it. Select the reference, and click the "Edit" button in the context menu to make changes.
The user guide has more information about how to use VisualEditor.
Since the last newsletter, the Editing Team has fixed many bugs and worked on VisualEditor's performance, the Citoid reference service, and support for languages with complex input requirements. Status reports are posted on Mediawiki.org. The worklist for April through June is available in Phabricator.
The weekly task triage meetings continue to be open to volunteers, each Wednesday at 11:00 (noon) PDT (18:00 UTC). You do not need to attend the meeting to nominate a bug for consideration as a Q4 blocker. Instead, go to Phabricator and "associate" the Editing team's Q4 blocker project with the bug. Learn how to join the meetings and how to nominate bugs at mw:Talk:VisualEditor/Portal.
Recent improvements[sunting sumber]
VisualEditor is now substantially faster. In many cases, opening the page in VisualEditor is now faster than opening it in the wikitext editor. The new system has improved the code speed by 37% and network speed by almost 40%.
The Editing team is slowly adding auto-fill features for citations. This is currently available only at the French, Italian, and English Wikipedias. The Citoid service takes a URL or DOI for a reliable source, and returns a pre-filled, pre-formatted bibliographic citation. After creating it, you will be able to change or add information to the citation, in the same way that you edit any other pre-existing citation in VisualEditor. Support for ISBNs, PMIDs, and other identifiers is planned. Later, editors will be able to improve precision and reduce the need for manual corrections by contributing to the Citoid service's definitions for each website.
Citoid requires good TemplateData for your citation templates. If you would like to request this feature for your wiki, please post a request in the Citoid project on Phabricator. Include links to the TemplateData for the most important citation templates on your wiki.
The special character inserter has been improved, based upon feedback from active users. After this, VisualEditor was made available to all users of Wikipedias on the Phase 5 list on 30 March. This affected 53 mid-size and smaller Wikipedias, including Afrikaans, Azerbaijani, Breton, Kyrgyz, Macedonian, Mongolian, Tatar, and Welsh.
Work continues to support languages with complex requirements, such as Korean and Japanese. These languages use input method editors ("IMEs”). Recent improvements to cursoring, backspace, and delete behavior will simplify typing in VisualEditor for these users.
The design for the image selection process is now using a "masonry fit" model. Images in the search results are displayed at the same height but at variable widths, similar to bricks of different sizes in a masonry wall, or the "packed" mode in image galleries. This style helps you find the right image by making it easier to see more details in images.
You can now drag and drop categories to re-arrange their order of appearance on the page.
The pop-up window that appears when you click on a reference, image, link, or other element, is called the "context menu". It now displays additional useful information, such as the destination of the link or the image's filename. The team has also added an explicit "Edit" button in the context menu, which helps new editors open the tool to change the item.
Invisible templates are marked by a puzzle piece icon so they can be interacted with. Users also will be able to see and edit HTML anchors now in section headings.
Users of the TemplateData GUI editor can now set a string as an optional text for the 'deprecated' property in addition to boolean value, which lets you tell users of the template what they should do instead. (T90734)
Looking ahead[sunting sumber]
The special character inserter in VisualEditor will soon use the same special character list as the wikitext editor. Admins at each wiki will also have the option of creating a custom section for frequently used characters at the top of the list. Instructions for customizing the list will be posted at mediawiki.org.
The team is discussing a test of VisualEditor with new users at the English Wikipedia, to see whether they have met their goals of making VisualEditor suitable for those editors. The timing is unknown, but might be relatively soon. (T90666)
Let's work together[sunting sumber]
- Share your ideas and ask questions at mw:VisualEditor/Feedback.
- Can you translate from English into any other language? Please check this list to see whether more interface translations are needed for your language. Contact us to get an account if you want to help!
- The design research team wants to see how real editors work. Please sign up for their research program.
- File requests for language-appropriate "Tebal" and "Cetak miring" icons for the character formatting menu in Phabricator.
Subscribe, unsubscribe or change the page where this newsletter is delivered at Meta. If you aren't reading this in your favorite language, then please help us with translations! Subscribe to the Translators mailing list or contact us directly, so that we can notify you when the next issue is ready. Thank you!
10 April 2015 19.48 (UTC)
Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai! (periode 19 dan 20)[sunting sumber]
Periode baru pemilihan gambar pilihan telah dimulai, kunjungi halaman pemilihan/pengusulan untuk memilih atau mengusulkan gambar pilihan!
MediaWiki message delivery (bicara) 12 April 2015 03.18 (UTC)
2 interwiki merah[sunting sumber]
Entah hanya dari komputer saya saja atau yang lainnya juga, tapi kok pas saya habis menggunakan fitur konten penerjemahan (yang ternyata sistemnya masih asburd) tiba-tiba di setiap artikel tercantum 2 interwiki yakni Wikipedia bahasa Vietnam dan bg.wikipedia.org (Tiếng Việt & български). & 2 interwiki tersebut merah lagi. Kenapa bisa tiba-tiba nongol 2 interwiki itu ya ? --Erik Fastman (bicara) 12 April 2015 05.16 (UTC)
Lambang interwiki AP & AB di Wikipedia bahasa Perancis (WBP)[sunting sumber]
Saya lihat kok di bagian interwiki-nya WBP tidak menggunakan lambang interwiki AP/AB yang disediakan oleh Wikidata ya, alias tetap menggunakan lambang interwiki AP/AB tersendiri yakni bintang emas/perak bergaya vector:
Ketika saya cek di halaman suntingannya juga tidak terlihat adanya pencantuman templat Link GA atau Link FA. Kenapa itu bisa terjadi ya ? --Erik Fastman (bicara) 13 April 2015 03.28 (UTC)
- Karena fr:MediaWiki:Common.css bagian
li.badge-featuredarticledanli.badge-goodarticle. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 26 April 2015 11.53 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- You can read the latest news about VisualEditor.
- You can now use the new translation tool on 22 Wikipedias. You now see the tool the first time you create a new page. [16]
- The list of bad user names on your wiki no longer works. The global list replaces it. You can ask to add rules for bad user names on Meta. [17] [18]
Problems
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 8. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 14. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 15 (calendar).
- Developers will start to rename 1.5 million accounts on Wednesday. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis. [21] [22]
- All users can now test link previews ("Hovercards") on several Wikipedias. [23]
Meetings
- You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meetings you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 15 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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13 April 2015 16.40 (UTC)
Ketika saya menggunakan templat ini, sepertinya ada jarak satu baris di antara templat di atas templat tersebut dengan templat tersebut. Contohnya, jika saya menambahkan tag tersebut seperti ini:
{{tanpa referensi}}
{{subst:taklayak}}
Maka akan menjadi:
{{tanpa referensi}}
{{tidak memenuhi kriteria kelayakan|d=15|m=04|y=2015|i=14|ket=|kat=Y}}
Padahal ketika saya menggunakan templat tersebut tahun lalu, tampaknya tidak ada masalah. Hanamanteo Halaman pembicaraan saya 15 April 2015 02.54 (UTC)
Tidak bisa menyunting bagian tabel daftar di aplikasi internet mobile[sunting sumber]
Entah hanya terjadi padaku saja atau yang lainnya juga, tapi ketika saya coba menyunting menggunakan aplikasi internet mobile (gadget, tablet, dlsb) pada bagian tabel biografi di artikel-artikel daftar macam Daftar bintang tamu SpongeBob SquarePants dan Daftar Pahlawan Nasional Indonesia kalau mengetik huruf tidak keluar, hanya bisa bisa melakukan penghapusan huruf & meng-enter doank. Sementara menyunting pada bagian paragraf pembukanya bisa. Tapi giliran saya ganti pake aplikasi Firefox & Google Chrome mobile malah bisa melakukan penyuntingan pada bagian tabel biografinya. Ada apa ya ini ? What a joke (bicara) 16 April 2015 04.19 (UTC)
Tidak bisa buat halaman karena dianggap merusak, padahal ini artikel profil tokoh, mohon bantuannya.[sunting sumber]
Halo Wikipedia Indonesia, saya baru saja membuat artikel Subiakto Priosoedarsono. Yang jadi pertanyaan saya adalah mengapa artikel/halaman ini tidak bisa dipublikasikan dan dianggap merusak. Tata cara dan sumber penulisan sudah benar dan tepercaya. Mohon pencerahannya dan bantuannya untuk menyelesaikan masalah ini. Zicostian (bicara) 16 April 2015 05.41 (UTC)
- Mas'e
- Kesian amat ngga ada yang nanggepin. Begini mas, boleh aja nulis tentang bapak'e sumbernya ati ati ya, saya udah cariin dan nemu tiga nih:
- Dah kalau bisa ngga mlintir mlintir kemana mana, asal jangan lewat dari rujukan itu, selamet. Kalau ada yang ngehapus lapor saya...Serenity (bicara) 20 April 2015 04.57 (UTC)
- Maaf mas @Zicostian: Filter Wikipedia yang baru melarang mengambil sumber dari blog untuh mencegah spamming, beriklan, Konflik kepentingan dan Opini publik oleh oposisi atau pro (keterangan lebih lanjut lihat Filter no 8 Istimewa:Filter_penyalahgunaan/8).--AldNonBicara? 20 April 2015 05.09 (UTC)
Halo @Serenity: terima kasih sekali atas petunjuknya, tapi saya tidak bisa mengambil sumber dari 3 link yang ditujukan di atas, karena artikel ini sendiri sumbernya saya dapatkan dari manajer Pak Subiakto sendiri. Bisa dibantu untuk solusinya? Terima kasih.
Halo mas @Aldnonymous: terima kasih panduannya, tapi yang ingin saya beritahu di sini saya tidak mengambil sumber dari blog tertentu, ini adalah tulisan yang saya kumpulkan dari sumber terdekat daripada tokoh yang saya tulis di sini. Mohon pencerahannya mas, terima kasih. – komentar tanpa tanda tangan oleh Zicostian (b • k).
Halo Mas @Zicostian:, sumber dari orang yang bersangkutan itu tidak boleh. Sumber harus dicantumkan dari sumber tertulis yang bisa dipercaya jika tidak ingin dihapus atau dianggap tidak layak. --Beeyan (bicara) 15 Mei 2015 13.49 (UTC)
- Ruh dari ensiklopedia adalah data primer dan data sekunder. Data primer adalah segala hal yang menyangkut legalitas misalnya data pribadi seseorang, undang-undang, peraturan, keputusan pengadilan berkekuatan hukum tetap, akta, dan gejala/peristiwa alam tak terbantahkan. Sedangkan data sekunder adalah pihak-pihak yang membahas, membicarakan, memuat aktivitas subjek. Data sekunder dapat diperoleh melalui referensi dari sumber tepercaya. Dua hal itu jika terpenuhi tinggal memoles dengan pedoman gaya sembari menjaga netralitas dan menghindari konflik kepentingan agar tidak berpotensi vanitas. Andriana Suke (bicara) {{gnt:Waktuttd|+7|WIB}} 15 Mei 2015 jam 21:55 WIB
- Pak Zicostian,
- Wikipedia punya aturan Pak, bagian "tapi saya tidak bisa mengambil sumber dari 3 link yang ditujukan di atas" -- justru yang bisa dijadikan sumber adalah artikel pihak kedua tertulis diatas. Untuk, "tulisan yang saya kumpulkan dari sumber terdekat daripada tokoh yang saya tulis di sini", berarti tulisan anda untuk Wikipedia tidak cocok Mas. Saya sarankan Mas menulis saja di blog pribadi, karena untuk Wikipedia yang diterima sumber sumber yang sudah terbit dan mengalami proses editorial (contoh ditulis A, disunting B (editor Tempo misalnya) dan diterbitkan di majalah C yang dikenal sebagai sumber rujukan terpecaya (contoh Kompas [bukan kompasiana], Tempo, Bisnis Indonesia. Kalau baru tanya kanan kiri, dapat data, ditulis di Wikipedia dihapus Pak. Bukan tempatnya. Serenity (bicara) 13 Juni 2015 06.19 (UTC)
Kategori Aerospace[sunting sumber]
Halo, Kategori Aerospace itu enaknya dijadikan kategori apa yah? Penulis artikelnya sih masupin [[Kategori:Kendaraan Antariksa]] tapi seringkali saya menemukan perusahaannya bikin satelit komunikasi, bikin roket yang mendaratkan satelit komunikasi, dan terkadang pesawat. Artikel pembuat pesawat sendiri udah masuk [[kategori:perusahaan dirgantara]], tapi biasanya pesawat beginian ngga sampai keluar angkasa... Serenity (bicara) 20 April 2015 05.30 (UTC)
Dirgantara (en:Aerospace). ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 26 April 2015 11.55 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- There was sometimes a problem when saving a page in VisualEditor. It is now fixed on all wikis. [24]
- VisualEditor sometimes showed empty warnings for wikis using Flagged Revisions. This is now fixed on all wikis. [25]
- You can get the new version of the Wikipedia app for iOS. With it you can share facts with your friends. [26]
- If you write JavaScript, you should stop using importScript and importStylesheet. [27]
Problems
- There was a problem with Labs on Monday. [28]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 15. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 21. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 22 (calendar).
- Developers are renaming 1.5 million accounts. After that all accounts will be unique and will work on all wikis. [29] [30] [31]
- If your wiki has the auto-fill tool for citations, you can now use it when you edit a reference. [32]
- You can now give examples for template options in TemplateData. [33]
Meetings
- You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 22 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
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20 April 2015 15.30 (UTC)
Copyvio[sunting sumber]
Saya lihat di artikel-artikel yang mencantumkan sumber 21cineplex pada bagian alur diberi templat copyvio. Bisa dijelaskan kenapa ? Apakah karena sumber 21cineplex mengandung hak cipta ? --Erik Fastman (bicara) 22 April 2015 08.10 (UTC)
- Semua karya tulis itu berhak cipta kecuali secara tersurat dinyatakan sebagai domain umum. Pada dasarnya salin-tempel merupakan pelanggaran hak cipta. Kalau mau mengutip, kalimat tersebut seharusnya diparafrasakan. ·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 26 April 2015 12.08 (UTC)
Tanya: Soal kepemilikan gambar[sunting sumber]
Dear all,
Perkenalkan saya pengguna: Pymida Vid. Di dunia per-wiki-an saya masih awam. Mohon bimbingannya.
Ada yang ingin saya tanyakan perihal image:
Jika image tersebut bukan karya saya, tapi file image diberikan langsung oleh pemilik gambar kepada saya dan diberi ijin untuk menggunakannya. (file bukan dari link website). Dengan demikian apa bisa saya tampilkan di Wikipedia?
Demikian pertanyaan saya. Terima kasih.
Pymida Vid (bicara) 27 April 2015 09.28 (UTC)
- Bung Pymida Vid, anda harus membuktikan bahwa gambar tersebut sudah mendapat izin dari yang punya. Bisa lewat berkirim email. Coba lihat ini: Wikipedia:Permintaan izin. Contohnya: ][https://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Permintaan_izin/yohan.oprekblog.com[[Wikipedia:Permintaan_izin/gregory-widya.com|]. Lalu informasi izin tersebut ditampilkan waktu pengunggahan gambar. Semoga cukup jelas. Salam, Naval Scene (bicara) 27 April 2015 13.27 (UTC)
Dear editor Wikipedia,
Saya juga mengalami kesulitan saat mengunduh gambar untuk artikel Wikipedia bahasa Indonesia karena urusan hak cipta. Yang saya tanyakan adalah bagaimana cara mengunduh gambar di internet, memasukkannya di artikel Wikipedia, dan langsung mengetahui hak cipta gambar tersebut? Dan bagaimana cara saya mengetahui hak cipta gambar-gambar tertentu di internet? Terima kasih.
IreneTandry (bicara) 10 Mei 2015 17.55 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
- All accounts are now unique and work on all wikis. [36] [37]
- You can read a report from experts who tested the security of MediaWiki. [38]
- There was a problem between VisualEditor and an antivirus software. It is now fixed. [39]
- You can help test VisualEditor to see if it works in your language. [40]
Problems
- Some Labs tools had problems due to a software bug. [41]
Changes this week
- The new version of MediaWiki has been on test wikis and MediaWiki.org since April 22. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis from April 28. It will be on all Wikipedias from April 29 (calendar).
- It is now clearer that you can delete several rows and columns when you edit tables in VisualEditor. [42]
- You now see more information when you search for a template in VisualEditor. [43]
- You can now cancel when you add citations on desktop, or edit links on mobile, in VisualEditor. [44]
- You can now see the list of other formats for videos only after they're ready. [45]
Meetings
- You can join the next weekly meeting with the Editing team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs are the most important. The meeting will be on April 29 at 18:00 (UTC). See how to join.
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27 April 2015 15.10 (UTC)
Support request with team editing experiment project[sunting sumber]
Dear tech ambassadors, instead of spamming the Village Pump of each Wikipedia about my tiny project proposal for researching team editing (see here: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:IdeaLab/Research_team_editing), I have decided to leave to your own discretion if the matter is relevant enough to inform a wider audience already. I would appreciate if you could appraise if the Wikipedia community you are more familiar with could have interest in testing group editing "on their own grounds" and with their own guidance. In a nutshell: it consists in editing pages as a group instead of as an individual. This social experiment might involve redefining some aspects of the workflow we are all used to, with the hope of creating a more friendly and collaborative environment since editing under a group umbrella creates less social exposure than traditional "individual editing". I send you this message also as a proof that the Inspire Campaign is already gearing up. As said I would appreciate of *you* just a comment on the talk page/endorsement of my project noting your general perception about the idea. Nothing else. Your contribution helps to shape the future! (which I hope it will be very bright, with colors, and Wikipedia everywhere) Regards from User:Micru on meta.