Pembicaraan:Ali bin Abi Thalib

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Walaupun ada banyak kontroversi tentang kekhalifahan Usman dan Kekhalifahan Sayyidina Ali Karromallohu Wajhahu, kita tidak boleh serta merta menuding satu fihak sebagai penyebab masalah, bahwa fitnah besar itu bahkan sudah diisyaratkan Nabi Muhammad SAW ketika beliau masih hidup adalah bukti bahwa ke 2 tokoh besar itu tidak punya kuasa untuk menghentikannnya karena memang bukan mereka yang membuatnya.

Saya keturunan beliau dari jalur para syahid melalui putra beliau Imam Husayn dan keturunan beliau ke 22 Raden Abdul Qadir bin Yunus bergelar Pangeran Sabrang Lor, syahid di Malaka 1521 tidak rela bila kesalahpahaman ini terus berlanjut dan memuncak.

Sekaranglah saatnya kita saling memaafkan dan umat islam lah yang akan menolong umat manusia disaat terjadinya Armagedon (Perang Dunia ke 3) nanti.

Bagi yang ingin ber diskusi dengan saya tentang fitnah akhir zaman silakan hubungi saya melalui wikipedia ini (Sabrangi).

karamallahu wajhah

Mau tanya "karamallahu wajhah" itu apa ya? Hayabusa future 11:51, 26 Januari 2006 (UTC)

Saya cari KBBI tidak ada. .. Sudah saya tanyakan per e-mail kepada teman saya seorang pemeliti Islam dan bahasa Arab. Mudah2an cepat dijawab. Meursault2004 12:10, 26 Januari 2006 (UTC)

Karamallahu Wajhah adalah do'a dari orang-orang ber iman untuk beliau karena beliau pernah berikrar tidak akan menggunakan wajah nya untuk melihat hal-hal buruk bahkan yang kurang sopan sekalipun. Dibuktikan dari riwayat-riwayat hadits dan atsar para sahabat bahwa Sayyidina Ali dalam berhubungan intim dengan istri, beliau tidak pernah melihat bagian bawah.

Begitupun yang terjadi dalam banyak pertempuran, bila musuh beliau tersobek pakaian sehingga bagian bawah terbuka, maka Sayyidina Ali enggan meneruskan duel hingga musuh beliau memperbaiki pakaiannya.

Arti Karromallohu Wajhah literally adalah "Semoga Allah me-mulia-kan wajahnya" Amin.(Sabrangi)

Ma'af saya barusan meng-edit tapi lupa login.(Sabrangi)

Rujukan Haydar

Setahu saya Haydar adalah panggilan saja (nick name), sedangkan nama asli sejak lahir adalah 'Ali. Sementara ini saya tambahkan dulu tag rujukan. Bila lama tidak ada perbaikan rujukan, maka akan saya sunting dan serupakan dengan keterangan di Wikipedia Inggris. Salam, Naval Scene (bicara) 11:32, 30 Oktober 2009 (UTC)

Kembangkan?

Sebenarnya, kalau artikel ini dikembangkan dengan merujuk cukup ke en:Ali, bisa langsung diangkat ke AP. Tapi sayangnya, saya gak kuat nerjemahinnya, ditambah masih ada proyek lain. ▪ ^{꧋ꦩꦣꦪ.} Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 4 Juli 2023 06.30 (UTC)

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Artikel Ali bin Abi Thalib terlalu framing ke opini syiah

Isi artikel ini agak memframing mendukung pemikiran versi syiah, sehingga tidak objektif atau kurang berimbang dengan pandangan sunni, ada baiknya artikel ini dibuka untuk diberikan pandangan berimbang tentang posisi Ali menurut Sunni. Untuk mendukung pemikiran syiah sudah ada wikishia, mungkin lebih baik fokuskan kesana untuk framing kedudukan Ali. Terima kasih. Nugraze (bicara) 27 Mei 2025 22.32 (UTC)

@Nugraze: Halo Nugraze, mohon untuk tidak mengutip sumber primer seperti hadis atau Al-Qur'an secara langsung sebagai referensi di artikel. Terkait isi artikel, saya rasa tidak. Hal-hal yang ada di artikel ini kita pahami secara umum baik sebagai Sunni maupun Syiah. Sebagai contoh, Sunni terkadang memang memandang Ali sebagai tempat mulia kedua setelah Muhammad, ini dibuktikan karena kedekatan nasab Ali dengan Nabi, masa kecilnya yang di bawah asuhan Nabi, dan keistimewaan lain yang tidak dimiliki sahabat seperti Abu Bakar dan Umar; namun itu tidak berarti Sunni menempatkan Ali di atas Abu Bakar, tidak. Hanya saja mungkin karena ada tambahan pandangan dari Syiah sajalah, yang mentrigger seolah Wikipedia "mewakili Syiah." Padahal toh, sejujurnya Wikipedia hanya menambahkan pandangan-pandangan tersebut agar isi artikel tidak terlalu bias ke Sunni. Kalaupun ada yang terasa berat ke Syiah, silakan disebutkan bagian yang mana ke saya, soalnya saya termasuk pengembang daripada artikel ini.

Oh, dan menyimplifikasi "untuk pandangan Syiah mending ke Wikishia saja", ini tidak benar ya, karena Wikipedia juga bukan punya Sunni, bukan pula punya Syiah. Kita adalah ensiklopedia bebas yang menggambarkan semua pandangan secara adil dan netral, lihat WP:NETRAL. Terima kasih ▪ ^{꧋ꦩꦣꦪ.} Fazoffic _{( ʖ╎ᓵᔑ∷ᔑ)} 5 Juni 2025 09.24 (UTC)