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Templat:Rujukan berlebihan

Mohon bantuan di templat Templat:Rujukan berlebihan. Saya ingin membuat templat notifikasi ini, saya ambil dari WPEN en:Template:Excessive citations. Tapi, templat {{ambox}} di situ menghasilkan: "Halaman article ...". Mohon perbaiki yang ini.

Mohamadhzanhari (bicara) 1 Juni 2020 08.09 (UTC)

 Selesai. Mohon pindahkan nama templat dari Templat:Rujukan berlebihan ke Template:Excessive citations. Potensi kegagalan rendering parameter akan berkurang apabila menggunakan nama dalam bahasa Inggris. Lagipula ini bukan templat navigasi, melainkan templat teknis, sehingga tidak ada kewajiban menggunakan nama templat dalam bahasa Indonesia. --Lord Yeager (bicara) 1 Juni 2020 08.15 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-23

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• There is a new beta version of the Wikimedia Commons app for Android. It has a new zoom function when you look at images. It can also suggest places when you upload geotagged photos. [1]

Problems

• There was a problem with the Commons database on 27 May. Commons could not be edited for eight minutes. Because of this problem the database was moved. This caused another short read-only time on 29 May. [2][3][4]
• The Vector skin had a problem where you couldn't add links to the article in other languages. You couldn't see the section if there were no links to other languages already. It also removed content translation links and links to language settings. This has now been fixed. [5]

Changes later this week

• You can get a notification when someone links to a page you created. You can turn these notifications off for individual pages. You can soon turn them off also in the notifications you get. [6]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 2 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 3 June. It will be on all wikis from 4 June (calendar).

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1 Juni 2020 22.30 (UTC)

Tanya

Kenapa Saya tidak bisa menolak revisi, tertulis disitu "Sepertinya ada masalah dengan sesi log Anda; log Anda telah dibatalkan sebagai antisipasi untuk mencegah pembajakan. Silakan tekan tombol "kembali" dan muat kembali halaman sebelum Anda masuk, lalu coba lagi". Apa yang harus saya lakukan?

Aans03 (bicara) 4 Juni 2020 05.02 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-24

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Some articles have tables that can be sorted in different ways. For example a list of countries can be sorted alphabetically but you can click on the size column to sort them by size. If you clicked on the column a second time it would sort the countries from the bottom to the top instead. A third click will now take you back to the original sorting. [7]
• Self-closed tags now work as in the HTML5 specifications. This means you should stop using some of them. <b/> is an example of a self-closed tag that won't work. area, base, br, col, embed, hr, img, input, keygen, link, meta, param, source, track, wbr can be self-closed. Pages with tags that should not be self-closed have been listed in a tracking category since 2016. They will be listed in Special:LintErrors/self-closed-tag. This doesn't affect <references /> or <ref />. [8]
• There is a banner called WikidataPageBanner. It is for example used by the Wikivoyages, Wikimedia Russia and the Catalan, Basque, Galician and Turkish Wikipedias. It will now been seen by mobile visitors too. Before this it was only seen on desktop. The wikis should update instructions on MediaWiki:Sitenotice so that editors know to test and style for mobile too. [9][10]

Changes later this week

• You can now edit MassMessage descriptions through the API. This is useful for tools and gadgets. [11]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 June. It will be on all wikis from 11 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 118 wikis need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [12]

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8 Juni 2020 21.11 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-25

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Recent changes

• Toolforge hosts several tools created by the Wikimedia community like edit counters or enhanced editors. It is changing the domain from tools.wmflabs.org to toolforge.org. The routing scheme is moving from tools.wmflabs.org/toolname to toolname.toolforge.org. You can read the details. Tools that use OAuth will have to be updated to keep working. You can ask for help.

Problems

• There is a Wikidata item link in the sidebar on many pages. This disappeared for a couple of days for users who have the Monobook skin. This was because of a bug. It has now been fixed. [13]
• Editing, logging in and logging out didn't work properly for a short period of time last week. It was soon fixed. [14]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 16 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 17 June. It will be on all wikis from 18 June (calendar).

Future changes

• Pywikibot is a Python library to automate work on wikis. It will not support Python 2 after the new version in July. Support for Python 3.4 and MediaWiki below 1.19 will also be dropped. You should migrate to Python 3. You can ask for help. [15]
• The selectors .menu and .vectorMenu will no longer work in the Vector skin. This can affect gadgets and user scripts. .menu should be replaced by ul. .vectorMenu should be replaced by .vector-menu. [16]

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15 Juni 2020 21.36 (UTC)

Editing news 2020 #2

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The new features include a toolbar. What do you think should be in the toolbar?

This issue of the Editing newsletter includes information the Talk pages project, an effort to help contributors communicate on wiki more easily.

• Reply tool: This is available as a Beta Feature at the four partner wikis (Arabic, Dutch, French, and Hungarian Wikipedias). The Beta Feature is called "Perkakas diskusi". The Beta Feature will get new features soon. The new features include writing comments in a new visual editing mode and pinging other users by typing @. You can test the new features on the Beta Cluster now. Some other wikis will have a chance to try the Beta Feature in the coming months.
• New requirements for user signatures: Soon, users will not be able to save invalid custom signatures in Special:Preferences. This will reduce signature spoofing, prevent page corruption, and make new talk page tools more reliable. Most editors will not be affected.
• New discussion tool: The Editing team is beginning work on a simpler process for starting new discussions. You can see the initial design on the project page.
• Research on the use of talk pages: The Editing team worked with the Wikimedia research team to study how talk pages help editors improve articles. We learned that new editors who use talk pages make more edits to the main namespace than new editors who don't use talk pages.

– Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk)

17 Juni 2020 20.33 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-26

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• There are some new tools to make it easier for newcomers to start editing. They are available on some wikis. These wikis had a problem with the visual editor for a short period of time last week. This was because of a bug in the new tools. It was soon fixed. [17]
• Some user scripts and gadgets stopped working because of a change to CSS selectors. .vectorTabs should be replaced with .vector-menu-tabs to fix this. [18]

Changes later this week

• The developers are working on a new interface to solve edit conflicts on talk pages. This will be released on 24 June. You can give feedback. [19]
• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 June. It will be on all wikis from 25 June (calendar).

Future changes

• A temporary fix helped wikis make their main pages more mobile friendly. This was in 2012. It has not been recommended since 2017. It will not work after 13 July. Wikis should use TemplateStyles instead. 91 wikis still need to fix this. You can read more and see if your wiki is affected. [20]

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22 Juni 2020 18.48 (UTC)

Tech News: 2020-27

Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.

Problems

• Everyone was logged out. This was because a few users saw the wikis as if they were logged in to someone else's account. The problem should be fixed now. [21]
• Some readers didn't see new edits to pages. If the page had been recently changed they saw an older version of the page instead. This only affected readers who were logged out. It lasted for ten days. It has been fixed. [22]

Changes later this week

• The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 30 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 July. It will be on all wikis from 1 July (calendar).

Future changes

• The Modern and Monobook skins use the ID searchGoButton for the go button. This is searchButton for Vector. To have the same ID for all skins it will change to searchButton in Monobook and Modern too. This will affect gadgets and user scripts. It will happen on 23 July. They should be updated to use searchButton. You can read more and see a list of affected scripts.

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29 Juni 2020 16.30 (UTC)

Mohon buat templat Uw-tilde di versi wpid

Mohon buatkan templat di halaman en:Template:Uw-tilde di bahasa Indonesia. Terima kasih. Mohamadhzanhari (bicara) 30 Juni 2020 05.10 (UTC)

Situs muslim.or.id diblokir oleh penyaring spam

Salam. Mohon pengurus dan yang lain. Saya menemukan bahwa situs muslim[dot]or[dot]id diblokir oleh penyaring spam. Bisa mohon ditinjau ulang? Situs tersebut telah memiliki tim redaksi yang beranggotakan para ahli (di sana di /tentang-kami, bisa dilihat bergelar Dr., M.A., Ph.D.). Saya kira aneh, kok situs seperti ini dianggap spam. Dan mengingatkan bahwa kebijakan di Wikipedia adalah sudut pandang netral. Terima kasih. Mohamadhzanhari (bicara) 1 Juli 2020 00.19 (UTC)

Mohon hapus subhalaman

Salam. Mohon bantuan lagi. Mohon hapus semua subhalaman dari halaman dengan indeks awalan Portal:Islam/Ayat Pilihan/ , Portal:Islam/Hadis Pilihan/ , dan Portal:Islam/Doa Pilihan/ . Saya bermaksud menggunakan switch alih-alih menggunakan sub-halaman seperti ini. Terima kasih (note: yang bukan subhalaman dari subhalaman itu mohon jangan dihapus.) Mohamadhzanhari (bicara) 1 Juli 2020 02.25 (UTC)

Adakah kesepakatan format artikel di antara bot?

Beberapa hari yang lalu, Pengguna:AABot (@Medelam) melakukan perubahan yang mengembalikan perubahan yang telah dilakukan oleh Pengguna:HsfBot (@Hidayatsrf). Saya jadi penasaran. Adakah kesepakatan format artikel di antara bot? Muhammad Rifqi Priyo Susanto (bicara) 2 Juli 2020 13.20 (UTC)

@S Rifqi: kalau saya lihat sepertinya hal ini karena ada perbedaan konfigurasi perubahan kosmetik antara pywikibot dengan AWB. Agaknya memang perlu disepakati suatu rincian pedoman gaya, khususnya mengenai penempatan templat {{stub}}. Omong-omong perang suntingan antar bot memang sudah jadi masalah lama (baca: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/feb/23/wikipedia-bot-editing-war-study). --Hidayatsrf (bicara) 2 Juli 2020 13.42 (UTC)

Tanda tangan

Pesan ini disampaikan oleh Whatamidoing (WMF) di Pembicaraan Wikipedia:Tanda tangani pembicaraan Anda pada halaman diskusi:

Pada 6 Juli 2020, akan terjadi perubahan piranti lunak MediaWiki agar mencegah pengguna menggunakan beberapa jenis tanda tangan tertentu (misalnya tanda tangan yang memiliki sintaks HTML yang tidak valid). Detail jenis-jenis yang tidak akan diizinkan dapat dibaca di mw:New requirements for user signatures (berbahasa Inggris).

Mayoritas pengguna tidak akan terpengaruh, namun jika Anda ingin mengetahui apakah tanda tangan Anda valid, Anda dapat memeriksanya di https://signatures.toolforge.org/check . Jika tidak valid, Anda tidak diperlukan untuk memperbaikinya; namun setelah 6 Juli 2020, jika Anda ingin menyimpan preferensi tanda tangan yang baru, Anda akan diwajibkan memiliki tanda tangan dengan sintaks valid.

Salam,

·· Kℇℵ℟ℑℭK 2 Juli 2020 13.46 (UTC)